The CF Bedford Project Updates
This page will allow you to follow the smaller updates not mentioned in the sections as well as which pages have been updated and when.
I should have made this page in the beginning but I never believed the custom Bedford van build up would get so many interested in it.
He's currently fine tuning his options so you can choose to keep the CF stud pattern or change to HQ or similar.
You can find his contact details on the links page or on trade me's service pages (just search for "cf bedford" and click services).
Murray isn't some back yard guy, he has been doing CF conversions since the 1980's, he knows what he's on about.
I don't really want to scrap it after all the work I've put into it.
I might have a solution, might have found a place to store it but nothing is set in stone yet.
I was up last week and finished off the engine cover, just need some foam strips to seal it and some latches to secure it. I've also started on the dash.
I ran out of panel steel but a quick trip down to VCM (see links page for their contact details) and they were able to supply me with what I wanted. Out of all the businesses I have dealt with, this is one I can always rely on.
My mig gas bottle is in the red, hopefully I can get most if not all of the dash done before it runs out. I probably wont get another bottle until I work out what's going to happen with it. No point in paying for the gas and rental for the bottle on top.
Plan at the moment is to get the dash done, then the dash wiring. The front is all wired up and the back wiring is in place it just needs to have all the plugs put on. If I can store the van I can hopefully do the wiring while stored as it's all inside the van and wont need any doors open to do it. Will probably take a while to do the wiring as I have to convert the jap steering column (wipers, head lights etc) into a non computerised loom.
Once dash and wiring is done it's just the diff arms to make and get a few things like seat belts (I accidentally gave mine away), new bulbs for the front (LED) and that's about it, then cert time. See why I don't want to get rid of it, it's so close.
I've had MID8 at my mums place as I have no room where I'm living, mum has been great letting me keep it there as long as she has but I now have to get it out of there. Problem is I have no where to put it and to top it off I am unemployed, my IT work has just dried up.
I have 3 options,
Store it somewhere for free or next to nothing - can't see that happening.
I sell it as is, problem with this is it still needs the dash and wiring (dash wiring only, all the rest is done), diff remounted and a few other bits and pieces but to pay someone to do these bits would be expensive, making the van worthless, not to mention it isn't cert'd yet. Then again to get all the work that has been done on it so far would cost more than an arm and a leg. Is a catch 22.
Strip the running gear out of it, maybe even the chassis and dump the body at the scrap metal place and build another one when we have a place big enough, ie in my dream 6 van garage.
I have about a month or so to sort it out so might try spend as much time as I can up there (winter isn't helping) and get as much as the big stuff done as I can and hopefully someone will offer me good money for it.
If you are interested in buying it (for good money), you can contact me via the mid8 facebook page or email from this sites mainpages contact page. Don't ask to come see it as I never know when I'll be up there and if I am I'll be working on it - without interruption.
I've also been thinking about the dash board, have 3 ideas floating around in my head, all with their pros and cons but find if I think about it to much it gets out of control and I just have to do it and go with whatever happens on the day - a bit like the rest of the van. Don't think about it, just do it.
I'm seriously thinking about changing the side door, instead of gullwing maybe suicide door. At this late stage I don't really want to do more work on it than it needs as I just want to get it finished. Weighing it up, it's like bang my head on it or risk the door blowing open and being dented on the rear flare.
I've had a few people ask me how I did the tilt forward bonnet, I should make a page on here on how I did it. I will when I get some time.
As you should know by now mid8 has it's own facebook page (probably gets updated less than this) and I've joined quite a few custom van groups. Is interesting to see the photos of mid8 used around the net for inspiration. In the last few years I've seen some people do a mid mounted CF, roof chops and even a rear end like this one. Also a few crazy comments about how nuts I am/was starting with such a rusted out van. I reckon it's great people are doing what they are doing. I don't see it as copying, I see it as taking an idea and putting a new twist on it. At the end of the day it's getting more custom vans out there, that's what we need to promote custom vanning - be different.
It was a few days of, bolt seats in, take seats out, engine cover in, seats in, seats out, engine cover out (bang head on side door), seats back in, engine cover back in ...
Why I ever thought a gull wing side door on a roof chopped van was a good idea, I have no idea. No matter how careful you are you always manage to bang your head a few times.
Probably wont be able to get anymore work done on the van until end of next month, am redecorating our kitchen and lounge at present and have the Rotorua swap meet in a couple of weeks. Hopefully can pick up the last few things I need.
Have been thinking about the second bonnet catch since my last visit and first thing I did was redesign it, is a lot less bulky and cleaner looking. Took a while to fine tune it but is all done except the opener linkage, need a tiny turn buckle, hopefully a RC shop can help me out.
Got all the front wiring finished (wires just go into the van for the moment), and started to draw up a wiring loom chart for it, got the bonnet hinge finished and a few other little bits finished.
I took my camera up so could get some photos, took one photo of the catch and batteries went flat - grr.
I also put the drivers seat back in, sat in it and made vroom vroom noises haha. I really put the seat in so can work out where to put the dash gauges. I still need overflow bottle and to bog the front up but then that's it for the outside and front, everything else is inside the van.
I can't quite get a battery under the front seat so might have to lift a seat a little, am also going to redo the brake pedal. Angle should be more like a car than a t-bucket.
I figured because winter is coming I should really get all the front of the van finished and work back. So I've been working on all the little finishing touches, things like bonnet adjusters, safety catch, bonnet cable etc.
I've been trying to find some XC Fairmont bulb holders for the grills indicators, hunted high and low but couldn't find any, I popped into pick a part trying to find a suitable screen washer bottle, over flow bottle and bonnet release cable and they had a falcon ute there. Not sure on the model as most of it was missing, but saw the tail light bulb holders and took a chance they'd fit, low and behold they did, perfect fit (was the indicator and tail light or reverse light holders - single).
Couldn't find a decent washer bottle so will stick to the later model CF one, still need to find an overflow bottle for the radiator.
I've had to add a second catch for the top of the bonnet, have done the mounting just need to make up a linkage of some sort to connect to the safety lever (they work opposite to each other and not inline)
Easter is next weekend, so is the van nationals. Hopefully the van nationals will give me that extra boost to get the van done sooner (without cutting corners). Until next time ..
Is now fully plumbed - vacuum line (from booster), radiator hoses (after having to modify alternator bracket) etc, have a bit of a mission just trying to get a fan belt to fit as I've put the alternator bottom left but could only get a bracket to suit short water pump but because of the engine placement I am running a long water pump.
I even started to mock up the engine cover. Need to make up a wiring harness for the engine to include all the senders etc for the new gauges and eletronic speedo.
I was hoping to get back up this week but we've just brought a new bed and my back is killing me, plus got heaps to do down here.
I still have a few small parts I'm trying to source which are proving difficult, but I'll get there.
Remember at the end of the day you're only limited by your imagination.
Even though I have to sell it once it's finished I'm still working on it as if I'm keeping it. Example; When I did the mid mount engine, I designed it so engine came out the bottom (because I had access to a hoist at the time), But I got thinking, to come out the bottom the van has to be lifted high enough to clear the engine. I don't know if the van can go high enough as it's low, so am going to change it (just need to change the gearbox crossmember and floor) so engine comes out the top - through the side door.
Next trip wont be until next month as long weekend is at end of this month, but hopefully get all under the front finished and back on wheels. I've decided I need to get all the welding done as the mig bottle just sits there and I'm paying rental on it each month. Welding is engine cover, dash and maybe remount the diff - solid instead of rubber and also the diff stay arm mounts. I'm pretty sure thats all the welding that needs to be done. Body work is just go over the top of front guards and bonnet and thats all done. Then just all the little things. Sadly I remembered something else I gave away that I need, the seat belts.
This build has been going on way to long, I need to get it finished.
I haven't been totally slack, I have found a set of gauges (in the states), just have to check my fuel sender is suitable and then can get them ordered. Also have got my stainless pipe for the new radiator hoses, just have to get the ends flanged and once back at the van measure up the rubber hose lengths needed. Am also hunting down alt brackets, return springs, dip sticks and little bits and pieces. So although am not acutally working on the van it is still heading forward.
I wish I could work on the van full time so these updates would be weekly if not daily punched fill of updates and pictures - oh well life is what it is.
Hopefully next trip will see the bonnet finished, including all the latchs, catches, guides and bits and then hope to jack up the front, drop the front suspension so can seal and underseal under the front (back 2/3 already done). I still need to get a few bits, like overflow bottle and washer bottle (and mount them somewhere), but hopefully can get the front all back together with wiring (already wired just needs putting back in) so all that will need doing is inside; dash, engine cover, alternator, cables ... yeha.
Haven't posted any photos for a while so here are a couple of the bonnet.
Opened and closed
As you can see the bonnet tilts forward and I've had to make cut outs for the wipers. I've kept the original CF Bedford bonnet catch (modified of course) and will work on cable release. When I was testing the catch I forgot to put on a cable, it closed first time but oh what a mission to get it open again.
I'm hoping to get back up to the van in a few weeks time, and hope to finish off the hinges and catch. Then put all the front (booster, radiator, steering column etc) back in so can drive it again. Still have a little bit of work to do on the bonnet and front guards but that is the last of the body work needed, the rest is dash, engine cover and a few bits - It's getting close.
I had to sell off a lot of CF Bedford parts I had collected and the people picking up the parts saw 'mid 8' and all said "wow" but would you believe they have never seen this website :gob smacked: lol. I mentioned to everyone it was to be sold once road legal - probably unpainted, and all reckoned it would be worth what ever price I put on it. One guy even said "Even if you got 20k for it now your labour would be about 50c an hour". But we build these things because we have a passion for them, not for the money side of it.
I mentioned the 20k thing to a few folks and all agreed I should get that as it sits, or road legal. At the end of the day it is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it but what do you think it's worth? Pop over to the mid 8 facebook page and let me know. Thanks.
I should be back up to do some more work on the van within the next month, hopefully I can get that front finished.
Van has been sold.
Am hoping to come up over the Xmas break and get some more done, fingers crossed there will be another update before 2014.
If not, Merry Vanning Xmas to all, and a Happy Vanning Year.
You're probably saying, where's the photos? I did take some, but wont put them on here but rather will redo the The old engine bay page and will post here and on facebook once it's done.
I've got one more week to get some things finished on it before I'm away again for a few weeks. Hopefully I can get the bonnet working properly. I still have to weld up the back edge of the bonnet which will take a while but thats next time.
I spent today out in the garage working on the van. Hardest part is getting back into it, from where I left off last time. I'm working on the bonnet (flip forwards), I have done the hinge arms (the easy part) and now have to work out the stops, stays and catch. As well as doing this I'm also remounting the headlights, grill and radiator - had to move the radiator to mount the electric fans.
I know the bonnet is going to work my brain to the limit but hopefully it will all come together and I can get all the front and firewall smoothed up and primered, leaving just the dash and exterior visor (which I'm not sure about yet) to do.
I want to take it for another drive but have to be strong and get the body work finished first, can play with it after it's complete.
Sucks big time, all I want to do is work on the van, the weather is good, I have the wiring plugs and stuff just waiting there for me, but sadly I'm stuck on the couch looking at the roof.
I figured I'd let you know why no updates are being done.
Today, after all this time I finally got to drive the van. Sure it was only up the drive and back but it drove under it's own power, and sounded awesome.
I didn't get to etch prime the windscreen areas because I had a few problems getting the van out. First the starter solenoid burnt out so had to rebuild that from a spare that I had, then the battery decided it wasn't going to turn the V8 over so had to take the one out of the car ...
Enough of the talking, lets see some photos ...
The cat decided he wanted to be in the photos then decided to crawl under the van. The back mag looks different to the front but it isn't, well is a lot wider - 15x10 vs 14x8, it's just deceiving because the slots and centre ring aren't painted black like the front ones and centre cap isn't on.
I also included a photo of the roof detail, sorry I didn't dust it off first.
I'm going to add another page to the build pages on how I did the windscreen, what you see in the photo is the standard CF screen sitting in the hole without the rubber, is the original angle just sunken top and bottom. There are a few things you can't see, such as the modifications to the bonnet for the wipers etc but they should be included in the next big update after I get them finished.
Got out in the garage today, didn't get the roof finished but it is well on it's way. Hopefully weather stays fine tomorrow so can get more done if not finish it off. Welding the roof section is a very slow horrible job, go to fast and you risk warping the roof, so slow and steady is the way to go.
I'm back down the line again end of next week but hopefully can drive it out of the garage to etch prime the roof and firewall, and to get that photo I promised. It's so close.
If you want to know more look me up on facebook or B.U.G.A
Anyways, as I'm not home to work on the van or post about it (not that I have done anymore on it), while bed ridden I set up a facebook page for the van, if you have a question, a comment or want to donate lots of money to the cause ;) you can find it at facebook (mid8 or mid8bedford). I look forward to seeing you there.
The facebook page isn't to replace this, it's just a way to get some feedback - good or bad.
I still need to weld in the reinforcing (inner) panel before I weld the lid back on. I probably don't need it but will feel better if it's there (original CF had it)
Hopefully next update will be with a photo of the van in the driveway or on the street with all 4 wheels on the ground (not on a trailer)
Didn't get a lot done but am that little bit closer to getting the windscreen/roof finished. Because I've sunk the screen into the roof a bit I'm having to remake that panel that goes (on the inside) above the screen, sounds simple but there isn't a lot of room.
It probably would be strong enough to weld up as is but I feel its needs some more strength in there as I can't run the standard channel it has.
A mate said "just weld it up, you'll be selling it anyways ...". I don't care if I am going to sell it, I'm working on having the chance to maybe buy it back sometime in the future, may never happen, will probably just build another but would like to have that thought in my mind so I don't take short cuts.
I have to get this top of the screen done, am wanting to drive it, this is all thats stopping me (don't want it twisting without that roof support), so get this done then take it for a drive up and down the road or around the block, then get the bonnet and dash done so can get it cert'd and road legal.
The little van to the left (on the navigation) shows you what page your on - kinda childish but it is a van and is a van site :rolleyes:.
Like I said am not sure if I like it or not so if it changes don't be surprised.
Oh and not all the pages have been changed over yet, so if you see one with the old layout, don't worry ...
This heat we've been having doesn't help much but if it's not the heat it's the cold so shouldn't really complain.
I really want to get this custom Bedford van finished as I have a lot going on at the moment, just need a solid run.
No updates on the custom van yet, currently getting the white van ready for sale (when it's not so hot) and have been working on my model vans.
Not sure if anyone noticed but last update I said see you in 2014, slight typo there, should of been 2013 (typo now fixed), but the way this year is going it will be 2014 before we know it.
This year I have no choice, I have to try and make time to finish the van off so can sell and move on.
Only 3 main bits to do, top of screen, dash and bonnet but none of them are just weld a patch and and it's done, all need the right angle of the dangle and is hard when you can't work on it solidly to sort it out, I'll get there.
I've received a few emails and seen on the BUGA web forum that there are lots of projects out there, so people, don't take my lead, get off your butts and get them on the road, we need to keep vanning alive and who knows, maybe even get the younger generation into custom vans, then again would you want your daughter dating someone with a van lol
The steering, firewall, wipers and heater (and heater ducts) are all done. For the wipers I ended up changing the firewall again - sigh.
Dash is mocked up but am trying to decide upon a glovebox or just a top shelf thing. It's not an everyday car so wont really need a place to store things.
Have also started trying to work out the bonnet hinges, am either flipping the bonnet forward and sideways. The front guards aren't really strong enough to go sideways but thats even more reason to make it work - muhahaha.
Have also looked at the roof (front section onto new lowered screen), am not sure how I want to do it, either recess a visor into the roof section or not have a visor or even have a bolt on look visor, if I have one it would be removeable.
So yeah, I have been working on it and should really put up some new photos. I probably wont be able to do much more on it this year (only 11 days left of it) so I guess see you next year - that's if the world doesn't end tomorrow 21/12/2012. Am sure I read somewhere it was meant to end on the 12/12/2012, I guess I missed it.
Until 2013, keep on vannin :)
Oh and if I get some time over the xmas holiday I might change the website layout slightly, add some more content and pictures.
I did make one small mistake, I allowed room for the wiper spindles but forgot about the actual motor, so now the motor wont fit within the new firewall. No worries, just redesign the wipers.
Have the steering mocked up again (had to redo it because of lowered screen), am also looking at the heater (also being redone). So once all these bits are done it's just the top of the screen and bonnet to do, oh and the actual dash.
Am also thinking about putting outside door handles back in the front doors, the number of times I've had to open the front doors, having to reach inside each time is becoming a real pain. If I do it, it will be done last - have to find some suitable handles first anyways.
I think I am just about ready to weld the screen frame back in, I have to trim the new fire wall again as I sunk the screen a little lower to help keep the frame widths similar to standard. cutting the fire wall again means moving the booster down a bit to allow for the wipers - nothing is ever simple.
I'm hoping to get this done soon but am also building a new office and sorting out for the big move (no date for move yet, will happen after this custom CF Bedford van and Standard CF Bedford van are sold).
The shape on the right is the original CF Bedford shape, the reason the other side isn't the same is the booster is actually larger diameter than the shape. I will add the tail at the edge of the booster hole but once everything is back in there you wont really see a lot of it.
Not sure if you noticed or not, but I have removed the air conditioning, figured a simple heater to demist the screen should be enough.
Next to do is the bonnet, dash, re mount the steering column and a few more little bits and pieces, then diff, engine cover and it's just about all done - yay.
Sadly this means I can not keep the van. I'll finish it then sell it. So hopefully the updates should be more often with more photos etc.
Before you email asking how much etc, I have no idea. You've seen the work gone into it. Will probably just pick a number and list it on NZ auction site, unless there is over seas interest in it then maybe list it on ebay.
My white (standard) CF Bedford will also be up for sale in the near future, as well as a CF trailer project I have on the side that no one knows about ;)
I really need to find more time to work on the van, daylight savings has ended so makes the days shorter.
I didn't make it down to the van nationals this year, nothing seems to go to plan. Hopefully all the guys and gals have a great time at the nationals.
Well sadly it doesn't look like I'll have the van finished by next weekend for the Hot Rod show, have been running into a few problems and the weather isn't helping.
This is the van as it is today (friday the 13th). The screen looks pretty big in there but once I make up a top visor (semi moulded) it should look small again.
If it looks funny (the bottom bit) I might extend the end of the bonnet to include covers for the side, not sure how as I need to get the van out and have a look at it.
If this van isn't done for the hot rod show I'll probably take my standard bedford.
It's all the little bits that take the time, but only a few more and I should be able to start putting the windscreen frame back in.
Have made a little bit of progress of late but the bloody rain keeps falling, and this is meant to be summer.
The firwall is just about back in, the new heater is just about mounted, including the new (steel) ducting for the demister. Once I finish all those bits I can start remounting the windscreen frame.
The Kumeu hot rod show is on the 21/22nd of Jan, so I still have a couple of weeks but is going to be very tight if I can get it done - I also have other things I need to do in life as well. Fingers crossed.
I hope everyone has a great new year and may all your vanning dreams come true.
Also I have changed the place I get my panel steel from (and folded, for the big jobs). The place is VCM (Vehicle Construction & Maintenance Ltd). I don't usually advertise businesses as I have the links page for that, but with two weeks till Xmas I needed a bit of 18 gauge panel steel, and it folded (8 folds), the crowd I used to go to didn't want to know me, VCM however said "no problem" and did it while I waited. To me this is worth sharing, I doubt they would drop everything every time but they did and I am really thankfull. I asked the manager, Andrew Price (Blue) if it was ok to list their company on this site so us small time car/van/truck nuts can buy or get folded some panel steel and he said they were more than happy to help, even for the one off item. No job to big or to small. I don't get anything for this plug, didn't even get a discount but this is the second time I've used this company and plan to more.
Bad news is it's a major.
I was hoping to just raise the screen opening into the roof (without changing the screen angle) but nothing is ever straight forward. I've also had to sink the screen into the firewall 35mm (just under a inch and a half) which has caused all sorts of problems, first I have had to move the wipers, luckly it clears the brake booster but it doesn't clear the heater. So I've decided to lower the tunnel and fit another heater/air con combo. Is more work but kill two birds with one stone.
Good news: I think I have come up with another method to do the windscreen. At the moment I'll keep it at that but hopefuly if all works to plan I'll be posting (with pictures) what I actually did. Until then ..
I pulled the transmission out and gave it to the trans guy, seems it may of been sitting to long and snapped the pump shaft - bummer.
I also cut the front off another van - yeah I know I'm going to hell for cutting up a CF Bedford Van (that just quietly was wasn't to bad of condition). The plan now is to unstitch the guards and dummy it all up on this new front (I cut the guards off with the screen) and see if I can get the screen and guards close to one another or maybe make up a filler panel.
I'll had a couple of emails saying don't use the original screen, it will ruin it ... Sadly I don't have much choice but am going to try and hide the fact it has full screen as best as I can.
I'm going to cut the screen hole I have now in one piece so if all fails can always put it back in and sell a kidney or something and get a chopped screen.
I've also had an email saying why don't I just cut my old screen down, well, in New Zealand here our vans came out with toughened screens which you can't cut, to find an old laminated screen here would have similar odds of winning lotto, a new one is about $250-300 plus GST (which is 15%).
Because the windscreen is going to be so expensive I think the best way around it is to sink the original screen into the firewall. It's not the prettiest option but when you have no money you have to take what's on offer.
I have a Cf Bedford body shell I can cut the winscreen frame from but the body is a pretty good one (has usual Bedford rust) and am in two minds whether to make it into a trailer/camper, or put it back on the road as a van or cut it up. The biggest problem (apart from no money) is no place to put all these vans.
Would love to have a massive garage and get a Bedford van and cut the sides off and put them on the garage walls (inside of course).
Have found out next years Van Nationals are going to be hosted in Rotorua, would be nice to drive the van down there - legally.
One thing I was able to do was check out the transmission, seems the pump isn't working so am going to have to pull the trans out.
I just want to drive it out so can get some decent photos and clean out the garage so can get into the final stages.
|As promised some better photos.
Sadly they are of the van on the trailer not at the van nationals van show.
We towed the custom Bedford van down to Tapu (20mins north of Thames) on the Thursday, The standard CF Bedford towed it ok for the first half but the second half we had a few problems, the left rear brake decided to bind causing the brake to over heat and also the trans over heated causing it to loose over drive. It's the commodore V6 trans with locked convertor so isn't as tough as needed. Have been told since they are not good transmissions to tow with.
We had to come back before the show due to an illness in the family, so limped back making a few stops along the way.
It would of been awesome to put the van in the show amongest the other great vans but oh well, next time.
|The feedback we had on the van was great, whether it be from the other vanners, to the people over taking us to the people at the many rest stops.
Oh and the trouble wasn't just with the standard CF, The custom van also wasn't playing ball. Went to drive it onto the trailer but the transmission wouldn't work, so had to winch it. Was a tight fit with only 10mm on each side but was strapped down well and didn't move.
The plan now for the custom van is to get it all legal (engineers cert etc) before I go any further, the paint job and interior can wait for a bit, mind you am still unsure what colour to paint it.
If your wondering about the back wheels on the custom van, they are just skinny ones because the mag wheels were to wide for the trailer.
There are also a couple more photos on page 23
Might call it "problem child"
Stop the clock, tools down
Well time is up, tomorrow we head down to the NZ Custom Van Nationals in Thames (Tapu).
This last month has gone really fast, so has the year todate. I got most of it finished.
I had to trim the front of the rear flares to get it to fit on the trailer, I still have to sit the van on bits of 6x2 (wood) to allow suspension travel but is tight, I have about 10mm on each side.
I managed to get the perspex, was a bit more than I wanted to spend but can always use it for the screen template afterwards. I have kept the protective paper coating on it until I get down there to keep the road grime and stuff off it.
The photo I have included is a sneak peek of the van, I'll take some photos while down at the van nationals and post them when I get back.
The van is running but I've had alsorts of problems, I was going to use the tunnel ram for the show but the HEI dizzy wont fit, so used the edelbrock manifold and the water neck covers up the heater inlet, then the battery decided to die (wont keep a charge) ...
I've just seen the weather forecast for the Easter weekend, Thursday fine, Saturday showers, Sunday (show day) rain, Monday showers. Crap crap crap, I don't have the door rubbers, and with no rain gutters the vans going to get very wet inside. I have a tarp I can cover it up with and I think the show is under cover - fingers crossed.
Biggest problem I have now is a trailer to get it to the van nationals. A 2m trailer isn't wide enough for the back flares (they are 2.02 wide), I still have a couple of options so hopefully everything will come together.
I might even be able to make up a perspex windscreen, I have been put on to a place that does perspex stuff and if it's not to expensive will get some.
Plan now is to put it all back together, tighten all the suspension and wire up an ignition, so hopefully next update I'll be able to put up some pictures of the custom Bedford van.
The bonnet will work manually for the nationals but the motors wont be attached - the bonnet opens forward. The door skins will be primered and maybe the inside of the doors but they wont be finished or near show condition. Hopefully no one will notice and be to busy looking at the engine.
Reading back over the updates it looks like I keep saying I'm going to take it to the hot rod show or van nationals but never do, well this year I will be at the van nationals, unlike other years, I have actually paid the fees for them so have committed myself. The only thing that could let me down is the trailer. I have one lined up but you never know what could happen, so I have a plan B and plan C, well plan C is to buy one, use it and then sell it again - hopefully it wont come to that.
I wont have the windscreen but if it rains I have a cover, I wont have the van painted nor the interior done but it's unfinished ... The van should be driveable if it's not or there is a problem I have the trailer and hopefully a winch on it lol
The goal at the moment is to get the van in primer and running (turn key or switch) and take it down to the van nationals at Thames at Easter (end of April).
The plan is to go hard on the body Jan and Feb, March is for mechanical and fitting it all back together, April is finish some bits on the standard CF Bedford van (repaint the front floor, bases, engine cover and a bit more wiring ...).
Because I can't drive both vans down the custom CF will be trailered down but driven on and off the trailer - no where else in case any cops are interested ;)
I've added some photos as promised but I forgot to take some of the drivers side before I moved the van over and the roof is to hard to get a photo of as I only have a small garage.
I've finished from the drivers door back, the drivers side roof and the back of the van. Am currently working on the passenger side roof and left rear panel. The doors, roof spoiler and bonnet will be done last if I have enough time.
The standard CF Bedford has been cert'd and am looking forward to taking it to Kumeu again, sadly custom van wont be done but am hoping to take both vans down to Thames for the van nationals.
Oh and ended up putting the VN commodore brake booster in the standard CF.
Next update next year (2011) and I'll add some more photos.
Have a good one.
The standard van is just about ready for a drive, run it up the other day and it purrs like a kitten, was a little bit worried as I'm only running 2 cobies for an exhaust, but sounds good.
Just a little bit of fine tuning to do, fix temp gauge, horn, wire in cab lights, make engine cover and dash cover (I used the commodore dash).
I have HQ discs on the front but have kept the standard CF brake booster, will see how it goes, if no good will probably fit a commodore booster in it even though am only running discs on the front.
I really want to get back into the custom van but even with daylight savings there is not enough hours in the day. Anyone want to pay me to work on my van :D
My garage has shrunken it seems, the custom van sits and waits for some more work to be done on it. I was hoping to take it for a short drive up the driveway this weekend but the battery being flat must of been a sign and the weather doesn't know what it's doing.
I'm waiting for a few parts for the standard van so might start back on the custom CF next week if I can get some time, I'm really eager to get it finished.
I'd just like to remind all you Bedford fans out there about buga.com.au, a great website with lots of Kiwis and Ozzies with a wealth of knowledge of Bedfords, don't be shy, tell them Busykiwi sent you :).
The standard CF Bedford is nearly done, I've mounted the engine and transmission, the diff is just about finished (put the commodore centre in the bedford diff), have put the commodore gas tank in the bedford (needed electric fuel pump and return line so was just as easy to swap).
As this year is going faster than last I still hope to get the custom CF done by Easter.
I'm also selling my motorbike so will have more room in the garage and more time to work on the vans.
I'm going to put this van on hold for a month or two so I can repower my standard CF Bedford van, is currently running 3.3 holden (straight six), am going to replace it with a 3.8 V6 out of a VN Commodore. This should give me way better fuel and driving efficiently.
My advice to anyone out there building a custom van or hot rod, take your time, let it evolve, we are only restricted by our imaginations and the engineers doing the cert lol.
I've added a couple of new pics to page 23, they aren't the greatest but is a change.
March the 15th (give or take a day) marked the 5th year I've been building this van. I'm not going to make it six. Even though this year is going so fast again I'm going to go for gold.
The plan this month is to finish off the body, including the changing of the back and side doors (hinging instead of lifting). Once the van is in primer (2 pot epoxy) I'm going to work on the running gear and dash bits and get it ready for certification. I still have to get a windscreen done but hopefully it will all come together and be road worthy A.S.A.P
Looks like I'll have to wait another year for the Kumeu hot rod show - what a piss off, oh well I'll still take the standard CF Bedford van up.
If anyone is going to the hot rod show, stop by the vans, or better yet bring your own, the van club will have a spot by the arena.
|Here are the latest pictures of my Custom CF Bedford Van.
Has been stripped down to bare metal again and is ready for etch primer. The bits of wood under the van is so the drive way doesn't get painted.
It will still need a little bit of filler around the recessed welds, like the side windows, flares, spoiler, roof edge ... I have hammer and filed a lot of it.
After the kumeu hot rod show I plan to do a few things to it, change a few bits I'm not happy with, which in turn will tie in with a theme I had an idea of.
Finally Christmas is over (yeah I'm scrooge).
Going from a workshop to a small single garage has been hard, can't even open the side door (it lifts up - gullwing)
I have been (and will be for a while), stripping off all the EA12, straightening the panels (amazing how it can gather dents from just sitting) and aligning all the doors etc, then spray etch, a little filler here and there, then primer. After that it's just wire up the engine a bit better (add an ignition), track down the glass guy, tightened a few bolts and should be all done for the Hot Rod Show - yay
This picture is of my two Bedford vans, The custom and the standard CF.
Another update and photos soon.
Have been busy last few weeks, engine and trans is out, all underneath is preped up, just changing the exhaust mounts then will seal up and paint underneath. It wont be show room condition, mainly cause it's to hard to keep clean and polished. I intend to drive this van.
I have 3 weeks before Xmas so plan is to finish underneath and motor this week and next and the last two weeks for the dash and the bonnet.
The van wont be 100% finished but even without a dash I should still be able to get it to the hot rod show.
Still no windscreen but is in the "being sorted" box. Last couple of weeks I've been adding door mirrors and wiring the doors and dash bits up (just the door bits in the dash). The dash itself I have had to step away from it, it just isn't flowing (idea wise) and I know if I force myself to think about it then I probably wont like it when it's finished and will need to be redone.
Basically from the front doors back is finished ready for some body work and primer, a couple of things like engine wiring and brake line clips but I hope to get all that done in the next couple of weeks.
I've been working on the windscreen mostly since last update, tried wood - still flexed so ended up making a steel one 25x3mm flat doubled up around the edges to make the 6mm of the bedford screen.
The front flares are done, the heaters windscreen vents is done (except the side window bits - need mirrors). Am having trouble getting the information I need on the gauges so the dash is on hold I guess you could say, I still need to wire up the dash section (steering column, heater etc) and front bit (headlights, air con etc).
I'm also working on the windscreen template so can get that made, biggest problem is the curves of the screen and getting the template to hold the shape.
I'm also looking at the dash but am unsure what gauges to use, also have made the windscreen heater vents which was interesting as am using the Rav4 heater and air con.
The front flares are tacked on and just need to be fully welded then really the only outside bits are the mirrors, indicators in the front guards (or maybe in mirrors) and a bit more bonnet work but that's inside.
I have to decide whether to use a single 4 barrel holley carb or use twin 4 barrel tunnel ram (looks awesome but could be real noisey)
I've updated the photos on the engine page
Just when your on a roll bloody murphy comes knocking (murphys law), I've been knocked out with the flu for 3 weeks now, am on anti botics but still have ear ache and no energy not to mention the other flu symptoms. I guess I just need to find a concrete pill so can harden up and get on with it.
I hope to put up some new photos soon and update some sections.
I'm going to work on getting the van to the Kumeu Rod show (middle of Jan 2010), even if I have to trailer it there that's my mission. It wont be painted but hopefully cert'd and useable.
I'm actually starting to get a little excited, all this time and it's so close. I just wish my money tree would grow.
I went to put the torque converter in the trans and found the oil pump had been broken. This transmission (turbo 350) was meant to of been recently reco'd when I brought it a couple of years ago. So thats off being rebuilt and the engine section on hold until I get it back.
So I started to finish off the flares, have tack welded both front and back on the passenger side and have the flares ready to go on the other side once I can get the van out.
The van is really starting to come together, everything is just about done (except dash, engine box and interior) and can see it being in primer in the not near future. I'll drive it home to do that.
Have been working on the bonnet also, as mentioned I wanted to go straight up, then sideways but because I've extended the bonnet it wouldn't work so now have the bonnet open forward - slides out then pivots. I'll do a page on it soon.
In the next few weeks I'm hoping to get all the front stuff done, air con (piped and complete), radiator overflow bottle, radiator pipes and hoses, wipers ... I've already done some of the stuff but need to either redo it, change it or do something else. Then either finish the body with the flares or start the dash and inside parts.
It's really not that far away (famous last words), it's mostly small things that need doing, lots of them.
I had already mounted the HQ booster - recessed into the firewall but now I have changed the steering column I have to move the booster over as the pedal bracket is in line with the column.
Next mission is the bonnet, I originally wanted it to go straight up on rams but for the cert I'd have to have a safety chain on it which would screw up the operating of it.
Sadly I didn't make it to the NZ van nationals, but it looks like I missed a great show. There are photos of the NZ van nats and OZ van nats on the BUGA website.
Today my new headers (3rd set) arrived, am still waiting for the steering knuckles but is all coming together slowly.
Once I get the steering knuckles I'll be able to tow it home so can finish it off. I was going to attempt to drive it home but I plan on stripping the engine down so would be a waste of gaskets.
I'd like to get it finished in primer and take it down to the van nationals in Lower Hutt over Easter but could be pushing it and my track record with this van will be more than likely next year. I might ride down to the nats this year.
The standard van needs a fuel tank sender unit (mk 2), I could drive it (have been driving it) without a fuel gauge but no one likes to run out of petrol.
Summer is over and winter is fast approaching so am not to worried about the standard van as I enjoy riding my motorbike around, just a beep to carry things on.
I've sold a few CF Bedford parts on the main NZ auction site and a few of you have made the connection between my user name and my webpage. I always get asked about new updates which is funny (to me - guess you had to be there moment). Some of you know, some don't but as NZ doesn't have a Bedford website as such a few Kiwi's use the Australian one - BUGA (Bedford user group of Australia). Great bunch, very helpful lot and a gallery to show we all like our beddies. Come check us out at www.buga.com.au. My username there is Busykiwi (that's not my username on the auction site).
The standard van is more or less finished, had a bit of problem with the brakes and things but got it all sorted.
I hope to be bringing the custom Bedford home in the next few weeks so can finish off the last bits of the body and get it ready for paint. I'm hoping to tow it back with the standard CF so can get some photos together.
The standard CF isn't finished also, I did away with the Nissan LD28 diesel engine because I found an Australian assembled CF Bedford with LPG. The van itself was rotten so I just took all the running gear and the dash of all things. It was a face lift model (81) so had the mk2 dash in it.
I welded in the new dash frame, repainted the bits that got damaged in the conversion and am now just waiting for the transmission (wasn't in the van), and the diff and drive shaft don't fit as this was a LWB with dual wheels. So now the standard CF has a 3.3 Holden 6 cly engine.
The plan was to get the brakes and steering sorted and line tow it home so could finish the body over Xmas. With trying to make a living, working on both vans and the stresses of life it might be pushing it.
The custom van, I hope to get the rest of underneath finished so can get it back on the ground and work on the inner and upper stuff. Body wise it's just the outer flares and bonnet fixing that needs done before the filing starts.
I've also finished all the body work on the standard CF Bedford, just the motor to finish wiring up and a paint job. I placed a picture of all the rust that I had cut out from that van on the BUGA (Bedford Users Group Australia) website.
Sadly I have no updates to mention, not even on the standard van.
I guess this update is just to let you know I have not disappeared. I get a few emails from time to time asking for updates and things, thanks for them, it inspires me to get back into it - just have to find the time.
I am going to have to put both vans on top of the list very soon, I know I keep saying next update ... but this time ... The plan is to finish the standard CF (only rear quarters and repower to do) with paint then drag the custom van back to the single garage and get it finished.
Since the last update I have remounted the jaguar independent rear end, I removed the cage and lifted the van 20mm, which means I also have to remount the engine and transmission to suit.
I have also been playing around with the front spoiler but I am not really happy with any ideas I've had yet. It's sort of like you get an idea in your head, you try it but it doesn't look right so you try something else then end up trying to get too fancy so start again, remembering simple is often better.
Hopefully the next update wont be to far away and I'll have some good news for a change.
Here is the standard van
The whole van has been stripped to metal (paint was crazy cracked), all the rust cut out, and the inside and door jams have been painted (white), just have the lower rear panels to do.
This van is now running a Nissan diesel LD28 with 5 speed gearbox.
This van is just going to be white, but I may add some ghost flames (flames done in just a pearl) cause flames are cool ;)
I have a set of trident mags for it (14x7) and that's about it.
I hope to get some photos soon of this van beside the custom van
The van is jacked up in the front in this photo as I was working on the gearbox mount at the time.
Hopefully the next update will be on the custom van, I've decided to remount the jag diff, the transmission mount and maybe even bring the engine back a fraction - remove one of the universals from the "driveshaft".
I hope to start work again on this van soon and hopefully get it in primer before long, and if these damn engine parts ever turn up can start driving it so as to test it all out before painting in case I need to change anything.
This last month I have been working only on my new (standard) van, has become a mini restoration with a slight modification. Yeah I know I said no mods but a side door and pillar came along so had to fit it, have also updated the tired old 2.3 Bedford motor for a Nissan LD28 diesel engine. I'm even painting it the original dirty white colour (the van not the motor).
On a custom van note, I was given a dead line to get my van out of my brothers place, and it is fast approaching, so in the next few days (waiting for a fine day) will be moving it to my neighbours workshop where hopefully can finish it off. The weird thing is, this will be the third place it's been (well fourth as I started it at home in a single garage), its getting closer to home each time, will be 5 mins away once moved instead of 12 minutes away.
This month I've done a bit on the bonnet, I've extended the front edge down to the grill so as to avoid another body line gap. I'm confused as to how to hinge the bonnet, the choices are on the side, split in half and hinge on ends, straight up or even just standard.
I have to take a couple of weeks off as my brother (who's place the van is at) is storing some household stuff for a friend so can't work on it. This isn't to bad as my car died and was left with just the motorbike which isn't always ideal when carting stuff around, so I brought a run around - a CF Bedford van. The van had a seized motor and gearbox had no second gear, also had leaky left rear brakes, anyways the gearbox was repaired, motor freed up without pulling it apart, the brakes replaced and now just have to vin it. Someone had spent some money on this van before as it had a new clutch and new front brake cylinders. The down side to this van is it has no side door. This van WILL remain standard, it will NOT be modified in anyway.
I'll probably just keep this new van until I get this van finished, would be good to take some photos beside a original van, am looking forward to towing it - should look good, will get some photos for sure.
The front spoiler just isn't happening the way I want it to, translated meaning my mind is blank and it's not "just happening", am having to think about it. What will probably happen is I'll do the front spoiler then not like it and change it - can't be a bad thing ;)
The good news: The drivers door and right front guard (fender) are finished, and the guard was the last of the rusty bits. Oops I tell a lie, the bonnet has a couple of rust spots in it.
The bad news: My car died and the part isn't available so only have my motorbike to get around in, doesn't make it easy when I need to get some steel, glass etc so brought another CF Bedford van but has stuffed gearbox and motor was seized due to sitting so hopefully have that fixed very soon and can go get some bits to finish the van off.
More bad news: The engine parts I am waiting on my USA still have not been sent, grr, to say I am pissed off about it is an understatement but what can you do. I'll keep at them and hopefully they will be sent soon (has only been a year).
Am on the home stretch now, just the front (grill, bonnet, front spoiler and outer flares) to go then go over it all and straighten it up then a coat of paint, or at least primer.
Looking over the van I only have the bonnet, grill, front spoiler, flares (outer) and maybe the front sunroof to go, then the big file up and skim.
The biggest thing slowing me up at the moment is where the van is, or rather where it should be. At the moment it's at my brothers but it should of been gone from there as he is/was going to be doing some alterations on his house but now that is possibly on hold.
Daylight savings, so gets dark early now, but I hope to get the front finished in a few weeks and then move the van so I can finish off the outside and get it in primer. The inside still needs the floor around the engine done and the dash but am hoping the parts I won on ebay will turn up when they should (around Easter).
I've been playing around with the shifter, hand brake and section between the front seats. Have also played around with the steering column (fitted the boss kit and steering wheel) but only because I haven't got any parts to carry on with. I finished the handbrake after getting a cable made to go from the Toyota lever to the Jag cable, need to clean up underneath a bit more and actually test it but is more or less done.
The swap meet wasn't to great, got a couple of pulleys but not much else. A couple more are coming up soon but hopefully my parts will arrive and I can get this van finished.
I managed to mount the shifter, ended up using an original CF one but will change the top. Have also mounted the handbrake but no one was open over the holidays so hope this week I can get the cables etc for them.
I got some electric window regulators for the bonnet (is going to go upwards) but I don't think they will work as they are plastic, so will have to make something.
Kumeu swap meet is coming up (20-21st Jan) so maybe I'll get lucky and find some parts.
The left front inner flare has been done and the front spoiler frame tack welded on. I need to let the front suspension settle again so can get the ride height but I think I'm going to turn the van around again and do the inner flares on the drivers side, and hope I get the door glass back soon so can do the drivers door.
Really there isn't much to do, on the outside it's the flares, spoiler, grill and bonnet, but the inside is the engine area, cover, interior, dash and stuff - everything needing parts.
I've changed the 'latest page' (last number on the navigation) to include photos of the stages, there are big gaps but shows the differences and how far I've come - scary really.
I finally got the door glass the other day (after having to send it back to smooth it up some), tried it, worked well so put on the door skin. The van is looking a lot more complete now with a real door on the van. I have only did the one side (passenger side) as I had to give the glass back again so they could make another one and toughen it.
I have also done the rear inner flare (wheel tub outer) on the passenger side - sorry no pics of either yet. The flare could be done now but I am going to wait and do all the flares at the same time, hate the thought of having different shaped flares.
Oh and I also redid the side door gas stays- turned them around so they actually push the door up instead of down.
I have a couple of small things to plod along with but still need parts, also need some door mirrors now (or make some housings). Would like to get the ball joints next so can put the front suspension back together and get the front flares and front spoiler mocked up.
I need to win lotto (don't we all)
Last update I mentioned I finally found the XC grill I was after, well ... after all that waiting and hunting I might not be using it, I can't find any decent headlights (they all rust) and getting them re silvered is going to cost $300. The thing I have to weigh up is if I want to risk having to go through this all over again if they ever got broken from a stone or whatever, or rusts out again. It might be easier to use some japper lights and just make up a custom grill.
I just had a call saying my front door glass is done, so will pick that up tonight, it is going to fit (positive thinking).
I have started doing the flares and front spoiler but am waiting on my lower ball joints so can sort out the front mags and ride height, fingers crossed one of the sets of mags I have for the front will be a good offset, they will be! (more positive thinking).
Kumeu car show is fast approaching (Jan 07) and I would love to drive the van there but have to remain realistic as I have some more parts coming from USA (to replace the ones that went missing) but they wont get here until just before Xmas and with Xmas mail usually slow could be a bit later.
I've updated the flares page and added the front spoiler page - both unfinished.
I mentioned a few updates ago that I found a XC Fairmont grill, well I finally put it in, even though I still haven't got my door glass back yet. The grill page has been updated.
My front suspension is out and will be installing new bushes and ball joints, non of that urethane crap, original CF rubber bushes.
The bulk lot of CF stuff has been listed on a NZ auction site, the listing is for seven days and finishes tomorrow at 8pm (ish), lots of views but no bids yet. Who ever buys it, will easily make their money back if they sold it off again separately.
 The Bedford stuff has been sold - pictures removed.
Is hard to make out whats what in the picture, but the box at the back for example (with number 12 on the front of it) is full of dashboards and wiper mtrs. I've lettered each pallet but is hard to make out as the images have been sized to fit here.
This is just to give a rough idea of whats coming. I will listing each pallets contents on the auction listing.
Auction date will be around the 16th of this month if all goes to plan.
I've finally got a XC Ford Fairmont grill but am not able to put it in until I get the door skins and front guards on - am waiting on the door glass again.
I have redone the back doors door latch (inner), figured the dinky japper thing I was using wouldn't hold up to the solenoid so designed and made up something using the inner handle of a japper van (think it was a Mazda), then decided not to have the solenoid as the rear door is kind of spring loaded (way I set the gas rams up) and would hate the door to open up on something or someone so rear door is manual only now (from inside). I have allowed the option to mount the solenoid again if I choose to at a later date. See, I need some parts so I can get it finished instead of redoing bits.
I have also had several emails (even though I don't make it easy for you guys to contact me lol) asking for some guides, so I have decided to do the two most requested - A how to chop a CF Bedford and a buyers guide (what to watch out for body wise mainly), although I'm not to sure how great the second will be as I've only had two vans with the original motors in, have always repowered them. I was asked to do a repowering guide but there is already one on the web thanks to Garry at VANZ, his guide How to Re-Power your CF Bedford takes you through what was involved in fitting a 350 Chev V8, 350 Turbo transmission and 9" Ford diff into his 1980 CF Bedford LWB van. He also has another good guide on Rear Flared Guards, Rear Door Removal and Rear Bumpers into his 1980 CF Bedford LWB Van, can be found here. And I understand the Vanz website will have some more how-to's in the near future.
Also there will be a heap of CF Bedford parts listed on trademe soon, I am to sell them on behalf of the owner, we are talking about mostly mechanical bits - motors, gearboxes (no zf's they are being sold separately), lights, badges, hinges, suspension, everything Bedford, there are a couple of mark 2 bonnets and some back doors, there are holden discs and stuff for disc brakes, some holden mtrs (although these could be sold to scrap), some falcon diffs (used for CF conversions), windows ... way to much to list, just think everything that can be unbolted from a CF, including front and rear suspension off all CF types, LWB, SWB, ambo, pickup ... This will be once in a life time sale, all goes as one, wont be sold separately (If I had the space I'd buy it all and sell it off). There is a truck load of parts, so I'll mention in here with more details of what and some photos of it all and details of when etc.
Am still playing around with the side windows, have changed the design a couple of times, until I can get one that works 100% all of the time I am just plating with a wooden template.
One of the front stubs was bent, managed to get another one from Murray at McQuoid Auto Engineering (he does the Bedford conversions etc) but am now having trouble getting bearings to suit. The old one had the stub machined which is a no-no.
Have also been playing with the handbrake and shifter, though I can't mount them properly until at least the water pump and pulley arrives so I know how high to make the section between the seats.
The only reason I bring this up is that I was taking some updated pictures of the tail lights and an image appeared in the picture, no it's not Elvis, jesus or even the virgin mary, it's half a skull. Maybe it's my helper (can blame them for the mistakes) or maybe it's my time.
|Really it's just the angle of the dangle, right light (no flash), right dent/recess causing it to appear like a half skull, thoughts I'd share it with you anyways.
A close up --->
I've redone the tail lights, not 100% finished at time of this entry but photos and text added to this point. Am I happy with them? To be honest am not sure, am still thinking round tail lights might suit it better.
Other bits I've been working on are just tiny bits, things like mounting number plate lights, securing brake lines, sealing the floor ...
If updates are mentioned here but you go to the page and they aren't changed, press F5 on your keyboard to refresh the page, hitting refresh wont be enough if the page has been cached.
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